Approved Woet's TTT Staff Application

[Woet]

Your IGN

Woet​

Your SteamID

STEAM_0:1:17378921​

Discord Tag

Woet​

Your Age

33​

Your Time Zone

CEST​

Previous staffing experience

Moderator on SGM.​

Why should you be considered for a moderator position?

1. Do you meet all the minimum requirements listed in the Requirements Thread?​

Yup.​

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2. Why do you want to join the Giants Lair staff team?​

It's always nice to have something to do and help keep the experience as fun as possible for everyone on the server (except RDMers).​

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3. What skills or experiences do you bring to the team?​

Plenty of experience with moderating TTT, made very few mistakes with barely ever received a (valid) report against me, and was able to handle a full 32 player server alone even with 15-20 reports per map.​

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4. How active are you across our platforms (GMod, Discord, Forums)?​

Just Garry's Mod at this point with a little Discord.​

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5. How much time can you realistically dedicate to staffing per week?​

Probably 10-20 hours, depending on travel plans.​

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6. How well do you handle pressure, criticism, or heated situations?​

I thrive in them. Moderating a full server alone was always the most fun and engaging.​

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7. How would you describe your conflict resolution style?​

Pretty decent, staying calm and sticking to the facts usually works for most reasonable people.​

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8. Are you familiar with the TTT server rules and general community standards?​

Yes, I am. For example, I know that you can check your TTT stats by typing​

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9. What does your punishment history (if any) look like on our servers?​

Literally not even a slay (yet). I love RDM though.​

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10. What is your reputation like within the community?​

My reputation should be is serious, focused, demanding, respectful, dedicated, and efficient. Not the nicest or most approachable person out there, but always fair, honest, and helpful.​

 

[Ryan]

My iPhone keyboard still autocorrects the word "Worth" with "Woet," so....

+1

 

[Siddo]

Tentative +0.5

While I've not seen you causing trouble and I can certainly agree to the reputation you claim to have, I can't give you my full support right now.

One concern I have that - for me - is a little worrying is your reports that I've handled.
Which isn't to say you've broken any rules or done something you're not allowed to. However you do keep nearly every report you make. Which has resulted in no small amount of slays being handed out. Whether it's someone going "you were looking kinda sus" or "aaaaaaaaaa" or "you threw a harpoon", you keep the report. As a player, entirely fair. But as staff, being very harsh on RDM and constantly keeping reports can make players uncomfortable around you, thinking you're very strict about the rules and enjoy punishing them for jokes or mistakes.
It is not in itself a wrong thing to do, but for me it is a concern and why I can't emphatically support your application right off the bat. I'd prefer to see you mellow slightly in this regard. Being able to take a few things on the chin, forgive a few slights, and laugh at yourself, are all things that makes playing the game more fun and makes you a better staff member.
Because I think staff should first and foremost be concerned with keeping the servers a fun environment. Looking to punish everything that might be RDM or slightly breaks the rules, very quickly makes a server feel overly restrictive and vindictive. Of course, that doesn't mean staff should just let everything blow over - it's a balancing act. One that I think you currently manage in a slightly lopsided way.

Ultimately, I do think you have what it takes to be staff and I have no reason to say you shouldn't get mod for the above.
But please consider it moving forward, as your attitude with reports might otherwise work against you if and when you become staff <3

 

[Lightning]

I remember the days when I was a Tmod training with you back in SGM.

Training under you on SGM was downright unpleasant at times. You were often crass/condescending in your approach.

Is this something you believe that you've overcome in the years since, or is this something we could continue to see if you were to make it back to Moderator?

 

[Kermie]

This guy is a massive troll, but he is funny. I do genuinely like him +1

 

[Etch-A-Sketch]

So Ive been on the server actively for 2-3 maps, afk just handling reports, while it has mostly gone unreported, in JUST Community Bowling, you would have been Mass RDM banned if we still went after unreported damage on our end. Can you explain why you think this is behavior acceptable out of someone who is staff/wanting to be staff?

 

[Woet]

However you do keep nearly every report you make. Which has resulted in no small amount of slays being handed out. Whether it's someone going "you were looking kinda sus" or "aaaaaaaaaa" or "you threw a harpoon", you keep the report.

I'm used to SGM where there wasn't even a forgive option. That being said, while I don't have the statistics, I'm fairly confident I forgive at least 30-40% of my reports. I usually keep the ones if it wasn't accidental, the person has a history of RDMing (purposefully), or isn't aware of the rules. A slay is a great time and reinforcement to encourage them to read the rules.

Next time, could you please reach out to me in-game if you feel like there's a report I should have forgiven?

Training under you on SGM was downright unpleasant at times. You were often crass/condescending in your approach.

While it's been many years so I don't remember in great detail, I do remember you asking a *lot* of questions (way more than any other trial mod) that I expect a trial mod to know the answer to before even applying. I also remember you struggling a lot with people who use jokes and sarcasm. You even reported me for "bribery" after I said something along the lines of "im willing to let this report slide if you paypal me $20", which Jabba even jokingly repeated when he marked the report as invalid. That might have been the reason I acted that way towards you.

We've been in-game together a few times the past few weeks so you can decide for yourself if it has changed.

you would have been Mass RDM banned if we still went after unreported damage on our end.

I have no problems with you going after unreported damage and actually encourage it. However, the way that unreported damage should be handled is by reporting the person to give them a chance to explain, not just accuse them of mass RDM. Wouldn't it have been easier to report or approach me about this in-game so I could explain the kills? Because if I did, I would have told you that the two innos I killed happened after one killed an inno and then started shooting each other. The only actual RDM was the accidental one on Guy and 8Bitf0x.

In the future, can you please PM or report me so I can explain?

 

[Siddo]

I'm used to SGM where there wasn't even a forgive option. That being said, while I don't have the statistics, I'm fairly confident I forgive at least 30-40% of my reports. I usually keep the ones if it wasn't accidental, the person has a history of RDMing (purposefully), or isn't aware of the rules. A slay is a great time and reinforcement to encourage them to read the rules.

Next time, could you please reach out to me in-game if you feel like there's a report I should have forgiven?

I'll restrain myself to only responding to the part that I brought up.
I don't mind reaching out to you when I think a report is on the more zealous side in the future. I haven't kept a sheet of when you did or did not forgive a report, but ultimately I agree that slays can be teachable moments. At the same time, I think a forgiven report + "hey broski, you can't actually kill for that here, gl hf next round" achieves the exact same result but with a more chill vibe in terms of helping people learn the rules and grow as players <3

 

[Etch-A-Sketch]

Okay so lets break this down, and when you are staff, you should be ready for anything you do to be brought up publicly, not privately. I also don't believe I should have to bring things to you for you to not understand they are bad in look.



This was the first report I handled on you, by your own admission, this was a kill solely on suspicion, and you even claimed you could have pushed for an UNID that was around a corner not in the players vision.

Then on community bowling.



You round started this traitor for half their HP

and followed it up by



just killing 8bitfox for no reason.

The immediate next round.



You just shot guy for walking down a hallway.


While we as staff no longer go after unreported damage, it is still a pattern of gameplay that is easily observable. Im not asking why you killed them. Im asking why you think gameplay like this is acceptable out of someone who is trying to become staff.

 

[helix]

9. What does your punishment history (if any) look like on our servers?​

Literally not even a slay (yet). I love RDM though.​

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Didn't you get demoted at one point? No hate or anything, I don't even remember why, but just thought it was weird it wasn't brought up.

 

[Woet]

Okay so lets break this down, and when you are staff, you should be ready for anything you do to be brought up publicly, not privately.

I didn't suggest bringing it up privately, I suggested bringing it up during the round so the players involved can explain it.

This was the first report I handled on you, by your own admission, this was a kill solely on suspicion, and you even claimed you could have pushed for an UNID that was around a corner not in the players vision.

Correct, I thought I was the last one left, so I shot after hearing footsteps. Genuine mistake (and I even said in chat that was my first slay after weeks of playing).

You round started this traitor for half their HP

I wasn't aware of this one, everyone was throwing bowling balls, I wasn't aware mine hit anyone. My bad.

just killing 8bitfox for no reason.

Did you discuss it with 8BitF0x? Because we have a long history of playing around, just like he did to me a few rounds before that (with a tazer) and after that (with props on motel).

You just shot guy for walking down a hallway.

As I mentioned in the chat, I was shooting boxes and he jumped in front of me. That wasn't for walking down a hallway.

Im not asking why you killed them. Im asking why you think gameplay like this is acceptable out of someone who is trying to become staff.

Why would the reason not be relevant in order to judge whether the gameplay is acceptable? Last I checked, while mods are example figures, they are also allowed to make mistakes and enjoy the game among friends. There's a major difference between purposeful RDM, accidental RDM, and playing around with friends.

So just to clarify:
- You said "in JUST Community Bowling, you would have been Mass RDM", but you brought up 3 kills that map, mass RDM is 4+.
- None of them resulted in a report, and 8BitF0x and Guy were happily chatting with me right after it happened.

I'd argue that 1 slay after 573 rounds of TTT is a very low number and demonstrates that the pattern of gameplay is very acceptable.

 

[Woet]

Didn't you get demoted at one point? No hate or anything, I don't even remember why, but just thought it was weird it wasn't brought up.

Yup, I did. I honestly don't recall why, or whether it was activity related since I started traveling a lot more. Lordy or Jabba might be able to remember.

 

[Josh]

Yup, I did. I honestly don't recall why, or whether it was activity related since I started traveling a lot more. Lordy or Jabba might be able to remember.

To the best of my knowledge it primairly had to do with interpersonal conflict amongst the staff team over hours. I am not going to give a +1/-1 based on your past currently but would like to see how you interact with the Staff Team on a trial basis at first to see how you fit in and make sure that any communication/personal conflicts can be identified and worked through at the beginning

 

[Woet]

To the best of my knowledge it primairly had to do with interpersonal conflict amongst the staff team over hours.

That is pretty likely, I remember there being a lot great pending staff applications that we couldn't accept because the teams were full while at the same time there were multiple mods with barely any hours or that would only join servers with 2-3 other staff instead of the servers with zero staff. This was negatively affecting the playerbase and I wasn't afraid to be vocal about it.

While I understand that there are times of inactivity for everyone, I don't think it was acceptable that we had unstaffed servers with lots of active players with great applications that were being blocked by mods taking up team slots that would only play for 1-2 hours a month.

 

[Fiz]

you were fun to play with and i never saw any issues when modding with you in sgm! +1 just dont fuck around so much !!

 

[8BitF0x]

just killing 8bitfox for no reason.

Did you discuss it with 8BitF0x? Because we have a long history of playing around, just like he did to me a few rounds before that (with a tazer) and after that (with props on motel).

Since I'm involved, I'll give my two cents. I don't really report RDMs towards me since it'll be hypocritical for me to do so as I'm a self-proclaim RDM lover. Me and Woet don't have bad blood and it's fairly common for us to chuck shit at each other. If I recall correctly, that moment the server was really chill and we were just chatting, having a blast. I don't recall any reports happening, just un-reported damage. I've known Woet for sometime now and I know they were good moderator with no ill intentions.

I love RDM

+1

 

[RyanHighman]

As long as you don’t go after people for their hours every other day like your last tenure, this should be fine. Just… try not to butt heads with other staff, constantly.

+1/+0 for trial phase.

 

[Woet]

As long as you don’t go after people for their hours every other day like your last tenure, this should be fine. Just… try not to butt heads with other staff, constantly.

I never had a problem with them personally. As explained in my previous reply, I had a problem with all the staff teams being "full" while the servers went without staff for hours, and the staff who are inactive just thinking about themselves instead of thinking about the server and resigning to allow active staff to be recruited. When keep people messaging me every few hours on Steam that there's constant RDM and the servers are impossible to play on, I feel responsible to make sure this is resolved.

During that time, I kept asking Jabba and Lordy to increase the team size, but they said Highwon was vetoing that decision. Since Jabba is in charge now, I don't foresee any problems or even a need to track hours.

 

[Espurr]

Hey Woet, I was your admin and I enjoyed your presence as a mod. I oversaw your demotion in 2020. This was caused by you having issues with other staff about hours and staff clumping together when they were on. Your reasoning was always sound but your approach made it difficult to assist.

This happened 5 years ago.

When I heard you were interested in staff I have been keeping my eye on you to see if any of these behaviors would return. And I'm very happy to state that I haven't noticed them from, you are active on the servers. And you seem to play nice with everyone on the servers as well. You have my +1 for this, so long as you don't get into fights with staff

 

[SLY]

Accepted. Welcome to the team!