Should this community and the server continue to be populated in the long run, then you could consider opening up a new server. https://giantslair.com/threads/when-the-server-is-full-turn-on-a-second-one.150/ spoke about having another modded one, but I wanna give my biased take on it too. I absolutely loved the vanilla servers during SGM times. I didn't play AHG a lot, so I can't say what it was like there. Vanilla isn't as popular, hence I suggest a semi-vanilla one. It could be a low pop server (~24 players max) with mc maps. Below I just wanna list and give my takes on various things.
TL;DR pls give some love to vanilla
1. Maps
I want to talk about various maps that have been used previously on SGM vanilla before whilst also giving suggestions for new additions.
MC Dolls, MC Motel, MC 67thway - Popular maps, should be clear.
MC Richland - Great MC map to use as well.
MC City, MC Nuketown, MC B5 - Already in the modded server, so easy to implement too.
MC Seriouscraft, MC Jondome - About to be implemented to modded, so ^
MC Nether - I personally liked it, although I can see if people dislike it.
MC Village - Personally found it okay too, but it would be way too big, so most likely a pass on this one.
MC Haven - Disliked it but it's iconic. Wasn't voted for a lot though.
MC Mythic - Could be used if you light it up. As it is, it's too dark and a population killer.
MC Skycraftfinal - Decent enough.
MC Fissure - Never liked it but never saw it as a pop killer, so could be okay.
MC Mineshaft - Voted for once in aeons for a good reason.
MC Rooftops - I believe the map had FPS issues. Not sure if that's still the case. It's an okay map overall.
MC Island2013 - Should be good to use.
MC Tcannon - Not as popular but I believe it was an okay map.
MC Tiptsky - Same as Mineshaft pretty much.
Taking only the greenly highlighted maps, it would give us a count of 11 possible mc maps. I don't think there should be a huge selection of maps, as one bad one could just kill the entire population if it's just a low pop server. Still, I'll just list a few more maps that I think look okay to use, athough I never played them before.
MC Office - Never played on it but it's office, so it should be fine.
MC Airship - There was another thread about it from someone else, so check that out.
MC Teenroom - I think this one could fit nicely.
MC Kakariko - Saw an mc version of this, I think it could also fit nicely.
2. Weapons / Gun play
Instead of reverting every gun back to the vanilla guns (like the M16 not being fully automatic), I think it's fine to let the guns stay the way they are as in modded.
Normal weapons: M16, Shotgun (I don't know if the shotgun is nerfed here or not, but I suggest keeping it clean, no nerfs), Mac10, H.U.G.E, P90, Famas, Galil, AK47 (nerfed or removed entirely), MP5, AUG, Rifle, AWP, Deagle, Five Seven, Glock, Pistol - all spawnable (but make ak rare spawn pls)
As for D and T weapons, I think there shouldn't be too much. Basic utilities, like radar, C4, Teleporter are naturally included.
D weapons: Intervention, UMP + basics
T weapons: Silenced Pistol, Harpoon + basics
3. Pointshop
Keeping it clean should be the way to go. I don't think you should be able to buy weapons (but you can equip them with your rank). As for upgrades, something like crowbar upgrade or triple harpoon seems fine to me. You can implement the preexisting ones from modded to this if it doesn't affect the game balance too heavily. Otherwise you could just scrap it if it's too unfair.
4. Server Location
If you put it in the same timezone as modded, then people will naturally move to modded over this one. However, I believe US players are more common than EU players, so locating this in europe doesn't make much sense. I think you just have to bet on the chance that the modded server always get overpopulated, so this one can exist, meaning putting it in the same timezone as the modded one is inevitable, as it's perfect for both US and EU players.
Overall, I think with this it wouldn't be too boring of a vanilla experience while it also wouldn't be too overwhelming of a modded experience for the average newcomer (if they exist).
TL;DR pls give some love to vanilla
1. Maps
I want to talk about various maps that have been used previously on SGM vanilla before whilst also giving suggestions for new additions.
MC Dolls, MC Motel, MC 67thway - Popular maps, should be clear.
MC Richland - Great MC map to use as well.
MC City, MC Nuketown, MC B5 - Already in the modded server, so easy to implement too.
MC Seriouscraft, MC Jondome - About to be implemented to modded, so ^
MC Nether - I personally liked it, although I can see if people dislike it.
MC Village - Personally found it okay too, but it would be way too big, so most likely a pass on this one.
MC Haven - Disliked it but it's iconic. Wasn't voted for a lot though.
MC Mythic - Could be used if you light it up. As it is, it's too dark and a population killer.
MC Skycraftfinal - Decent enough.
MC Fissure - Never liked it but never saw it as a pop killer, so could be okay.
MC Mineshaft - Voted for once in aeons for a good reason.
MC Rooftops - I believe the map had FPS issues. Not sure if that's still the case. It's an okay map overall.
MC Island2013 - Should be good to use.
MC Tcannon - Not as popular but I believe it was an okay map.
MC Tiptsky - Same as Mineshaft pretty much.
Taking only the greenly highlighted maps, it would give us a count of 11 possible mc maps. I don't think there should be a huge selection of maps, as one bad one could just kill the entire population if it's just a low pop server. Still, I'll just list a few more maps that I think look okay to use, athough I never played them before.
MC Office - Never played on it but it's office, so it should be fine.
MC Airship - There was another thread about it from someone else, so check that out.
MC Teenroom - I think this one could fit nicely.
MC Kakariko - Saw an mc version of this, I think it could also fit nicely.
2. Weapons / Gun play
Instead of reverting every gun back to the vanilla guns (like the M16 not being fully automatic), I think it's fine to let the guns stay the way they are as in modded.
Normal weapons: M16, Shotgun (I don't know if the shotgun is nerfed here or not, but I suggest keeping it clean, no nerfs), Mac10, H.U.G.E, P90, Famas, Galil, AK47 (nerfed or removed entirely), MP5, AUG, Rifle, AWP, Deagle, Five Seven, Glock, Pistol - all spawnable (but make ak rare spawn pls)
As for D and T weapons, I think there shouldn't be too much. Basic utilities, like radar, C4, Teleporter are naturally included.
D weapons: Intervention, UMP + basics
T weapons: Silenced Pistol, Harpoon + basics
3. Pointshop
Keeping it clean should be the way to go. I don't think you should be able to buy weapons (but you can equip them with your rank). As for upgrades, something like crowbar upgrade or triple harpoon seems fine to me. You can implement the preexisting ones from modded to this if it doesn't affect the game balance too heavily. Otherwise you could just scrap it if it's too unfair.
4. Server Location
If you put it in the same timezone as modded, then people will naturally move to modded over this one. However, I believe US players are more common than EU players, so locating this in europe doesn't make much sense. I think you just have to bet on the chance that the modded server always get overpopulated, so this one can exist, meaning putting it in the same timezone as the modded one is inevitable, as it's perfect for both US and EU players.
Overall, I think with this it wouldn't be too boring of a vanilla experience while it also wouldn't be too overwhelming of a modded experience for the average newcomer (if they exist).
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